The Icicle Works Discography
Version 3.08a (30 April 2005)

Media key

7"

7" single

2*7"

7" single double pack

12"

12" single

CS

cassette single

CD5

compact disc 5" single

LP

vinyl album

MC

cassette album

CD

compact disc album

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times in brackets are CD or clock times rather than label times

Part I - The Icicle Works

March 1981

Ascending

MC

Probe [UK]

1. Are We Dreamers [3:10]
2. A Cure for Something [4:21]
3. Lunar Holiday [3:45]
4. Sympathy [5:46]
5. All In The Gleam Of A Scientist's Eye [4:50]
6. When Winter Lasted Forever [4:32]

October 1982

Nirvana

7"

Troll Kitchen WORKS 001 [UK]

1. Nirvana [4:10]
2. Love Hunt [3:50]
3. Sirocco [2:34]

Produced by Pete Coleman and The Icicle Works.

November 1982

The Icicle Works - Radio 1 Sessions: The Evening Show

12"

Strange Fruit SFNT 015 [UK]

MC

Dutch East India Trading Co. ? [US]

1. (Birds Fly) Whisper To A Scream (3:48)
2. Lover's Day (3:52)
3. As The Dragon Fly Flies (4:00)
4. Lovehunt (3:43)

Produced by Dale Griffin. Engineered by Mike Engles. Recorded 14th Nov 1982, first transmission 25th Nov 1982. Released later. Copyright listed as 1988. Released in the U.S. on cassette on Dutch East India Trading Co. as the Peel Sessions EP.

June 1983

Birds Fly (Whisper To A Scream)

7"

Situation Two SIT22

12"

Situation Two SIT22T [UK]
Virgin 601156 [Europe]

7"

1. Birds Fly (Whisper To A Scream) [3:46]
2. Reverie Girl [3:54]

12"

1. Birds Fly (Whisper To A Scream) (3:52)
2. Reverie Girl (3:55)
3. Gunboys (3:44)

"Birds Fly" and "Reverie Girl" produced by Hugh Jones. "Gunboys" produced by The Icicle Works. All tracks produced by Hugh Jones according to label.

Confusingly, the European release of SIT 22T shares the same catalog number as BEG 108TR, Virgin 601156.

Whisper To A Scream (Birds Fly)

12"

Arista / Beggars Banquet ADP-9187 [US] (promo)

12"

Arista / Beggars Banquet ADP-9154 [US] (promo)

12" 9187

1. Whisper To A Scream (Birds Fly) (European Version) (5:20)
2. Whisper To A Scream (Birds Fly) (Extended Version) (5:46)
3. Whisper To A Scream (Birds Fly) (Single Version) (3:46)

12" 9154

1. Whisper To A Scream (Birds Fly) (3:47)

Produced and specially remixed by Hugh Jones. ADP-9154 had same track on both sides. Label says "Loaned for Promotion only."

October 1983

Love Is A Wonderful Colour

7"

Beggars Banquet BEG 99 [UK]
Virgin 106 190-100 [Germany]

7"

Beggars Banquet BEG 99P [UK] (7" Picture Disc)

2*7"

Beggars Banquet BEG 99 & ICE 1[UK]

12"

Beggars Banquet BEG 99T [UK]
Virgin 601155 [Europe]

12"

Beggars Banquet BEG 99PT [UK] (12" Picture Disc)

7"

1. Love Is A Wonderful Colour (4:13)
2. Waterline [4:00]

2*7"

1. Love Is A Wonderful Colour (4:13)
2. Waterline [4:00]
3. In The Dance The Shaman Led [3:40]
4. The Devil On Horseback [4:10]

12"

1. Love Is A Wonderful Colour (Long Version) (6:45)
2. Waterline [4:00]
3. In The Dance The Shaman Led [3:40]

"Love Is A Wonderful Colour" produced by David Lord and mixed by Hugh Jones. All other tracks produced by The Icicle Works with thanks to John Brierly.

Entered the UK singles chart on 24th December 1983. Remained on the chart for 8 weeks and peaked at number 15.

1984

In The Cauldron Of Love

12"

Arista 9217 [US] (Promo)

1. In The Cauldron Of Love (3:50)
2. In The Cauldron Of Love (3:50)

Same song appears on both sides and seems to be the album version.

March 1984

Birds Fly (Whisper To A Scream)

7"

Beggars Banquet BEG 108 [UK]
Arista 9155 [US]
Virgin 106 327-100 [Germany]
Vertigo SOV 2337 [Can]

12"

Beggars Banquet BEG 108T [UK]

12"

Beggars Banquet BEG 108TR [UK]
Virgin 601156 [Europe]

12"

Beggars Banquet BEG 108TD [UK] (Die Cut Sleeve)

7"

1. Birds Fly (Whisper To A Scream) (3:48)
2. In The Cauldron Of Love (3:50)

Canada 7"

1. Birds Fly (Whisper To A Scream) (3:48)
2. Scarecrow (3:06)

12" BEG 108T

1. Birds Fly (Whisper To A Scream) (3:48)
2. In The Cauldron Of Love (3:50)
3. Scarecrow (3:06)
4. Ragweed Campaign (4:12)

12" BEG 108TD

1. Birds Fly (Whisper To A Scream) (3:48)
2. In The Cauldron Of Love (3:50)
3. Birds Fly (Frantic Mix) (5.20)

12" BEG 108TR

1. Birds Fly (Frantic Mix) [5:20]
2. Birds Fly (Whisper To A Scream) (3:48)
3. In The Cauldron Of Love (3:50)
4. Scarecrow [3:06]
5. Ragweed Campaign [4:10]

"Birds Fly" and "In The Cauldron Of Love" produced and mixed by Hugh Jones. "Scarecrow" and "Ragweed Campaign" produced by The Icicle Works. Arista reportedly released a 12" demo of this, more info appreciated. See bottom of discography for contact details. On 12" 108T, title track is reportedly a remix.

Entered the UK singles chart as a double-A sided single on 10th March 1984. Remained on the chart for 4 weeks and peaked at number 53.

Titled "Whisper to a Scream (Birds Fly)" in the U.S. and Canada. Hit the U.S. charts in May 1984. Remained on the Billboard "Hot 100" for 4 weeks, peaking at number 37. Hit the Canadian charts on 19 May 1984. Remained on the chart for 9 weeks, peaking at number 19.

Confusingly, the European release of SIT 22T shares the same catalog number as BEG 108TR, Virgin 601156.

The Icicle Works

LP

Beggars Banquet BEGA 50 [UK]
Beggars Banquet BBL 50 [UK] (re-release July 1988)
Arista AL 6-8202 [US]
Vertigo VOM-1-3337 [Can]
Virgin 206187 [Europe]

MC

Beggars Banquet ? [UK]
Arista AC 6-8202 [US]
Vertigo VOM4-1-3337 [Can]

CD

Beggars Banquet BEGA 50 CD [UK] (released September 1986)
Beggars Banquet BBL 50 CD [UK] (re-release July 1988)
Arista ARCD-8202 [US]

UK

1. Chop The Tree (4:42)
2. Love Is A Wonderful Colour (4:13)
3. Reaping The Rich Harvest (4:06)
4. As The Dragonfly Flies (3:58)
5. Lover's Day (4:49)
6. In The Cauldron Of Love (3:50)
7. Out Of Season (4:46)
8. A Factory In The Desert (3:11)
9. Birds Fly (Whisper To A Scream) (3:48)
10. Nirvana (5:07)

US

1. Whisper To A Scream (Birds Fly) (3:48)
2. In The Cauldron Of Love (3:50)
3. Nirvana (5:07)
4. Lover's Day (4:49)
5. A Factory In The Desert (3:11)
6. Waterline (4:04)
7. Chop The Tree (4:42)
8. Out Of Season (4:46)
9. As The Dragonfly Flies (3:58)
10. Love Is A Wonderful Colour (4:13)

Canada

1. Lover's Day (4:49)
2. Love Is A Wonderful Colour (4:13)
3. Reap The Rich Harvest (4:06)
4. Chop The Tree (4:42)
5. A Factory In The Desert (3:11)
6. In The Cauldron Of Love (3:50)
7. Whisper To A Scream (Birds Fly) (3:48)
8. Waterline (4:04)
9. Out Of Season (4:46)
10. Nirvana (5:07)

Produced and mixed by Hugh Jones except "Love is a Wonderful Colour" produced by David Lord. Mixed by Hugh Jones. All titles composed by Ian McNabb.

Note the title differences of tracks 3 and 7 of the Canadian release. All three releases have different sleeves. The US sleeve has a picture of the band on the front. The Canadian sleeve is white with a small detail picture of the UK cover, see BEG 108T 12". The backs of the sleeves are also slightly different from one version to the next. The Canadian cover lists the tracks in the incorrect order. The track listing here is how they actually fall.

Track listing differences: The UK version has "Reaping the Rich Harvest" in place of the US and European versions' "Waterline." The Canadian version has both of these tracks, but is missing "As The Dragonfly Flies." The version of "Waterline" that appears on the Canadian version is not the same as the US version, but is the one that appears on the B-side of UK "Love is a Wonderful Colour". Production of this track on the Canadian album is incorrectly credited to Hugh Jones.

Entered the UK album chart on 31st March 1984. During a chart stay of 6 weeks, it peaked at number 24.

Entered the US charts on 21 April 1984. During a chart stay of 18 weeks, it peaked at number 40 for two weeks.

Whisper To A Scream (Birds Fly)/Love Is A Wonderful Colour

12" Vertigo/Beggars Banquet SOVX 2343 [Canada]

1. Love Is A Wonderful Colour (Short Version) [4:13]
2. Love Is A Wonderful Colour (Long Version) [6:43]
3. Whisper To A Scream (Birds Fly) (Frantic Dance Mix) [5:20]

Produced by David Lord, mixed by Hugh Jones. "Whisper To A Scream (Birds Fly)" produced by Hugh Jones.

Note that "Whisper To A Scream (Birds Fly)" received first billing on the front cover, and is the actual title of the 12" (as written on the spine), despite the fact that it is on the B-Side of the record.

September 1984

Hollow Horse

7"

Beggars Banquet BEG 119 [UK]
Virgin 106 931-100 [Germany]

12"

Beggars Banquet BEG 119T [UK]
Beggars Banquet BEG 119TP [UK]
Virgin 601547 [Europe]

12"

Beggars Banquet BEG 119TR (remix)

7"

1. Hollow Horse [4:00]
2. The Atheist [4:25]

12"

1. Hollow Horse (4:20) 119TP[4:57]
2. The Atheist (4:25)
3. Nirvana (live) (9:15) [8:24] 119TP[8:48]

12" (remix)

1. Hollow Horse (remix) [4:56]
2. Hollow Horse [4:00]
3. The Atheist [4:25]

"Hollow Horse" produced by Hugh Jones. "The Atheist" produced by Martin Lawrence and The Icicle Works. "Nirvana" is a live track culled from the King Biscuit Flower Hour Show, and produced by the Icicle Works with thanks to Karen Kirsch. Initial releases of the 7" had a poster sleeve.

On the 12" version with "Nirvana (Live)", the parentheses indicate the time listed on the European Virgin version label; the brackets indicate the time as timed by watch on the UK version. Since there was considerable discrepancy, I have listed both times. To make things even more complicated, it appears that at least some versions of the 12", BEG119T have BEG119TP in the inner groove etching, and have the times on the label as indicated by the last timings shown. Carl

The German/European version of the 12" reports that "Hollow Horse" is the long version on the sleeve, but not on the label. It is 4:20.

May 1985

All The Daughters (Of Her Father's House)

7"

Beggars Banquet BEG 133

12"

Beggars Banquet BEG 133T [UK]
Virgin 601 798 [Germany]

7"

1. All The Daughters (Of Her Father's House) [4:40]
2. A Pocketful Of Nothing [3:51]

12"

1. All The Daughters (Of Her Father's House) (Long Version) (6:32)
2. A Pocketful Of Nothing (3:54)
3. Mr. Soul (3:12)

July 1985

Seven Horses Deep

12"

Beggars Banquet/Vertigo/PolyGram TIW 1 [Can]

1. Seven Horses [4:46]
2. Beggars Legacy [3:40]
3. Goin' Back [3:55]
4. All The Daughters (Of Her Father's House) [4:40]
5. (Let's Go) Down To The River [3:53]

Produced by Wally Brill, engineered by Richard Manwaring, except "All The Daughters" produced by Geoff Muir & The Icicle Works, and "Down To The River" produced by Geoff Muir & Ian McNabb. "Seven Horses" remixed by Dave Wittman.

Sleeve of 12" does not present tracks in the correct order. It lists track 3 as "Going Back", and it is missing the parentheticals in the titles. The label shows the correct information.

Seven Horses

7"

Beggars Banquet BEG 142 [UK]

7"

Beggars Banquet BEG 142S (promo)

2*7"

Beggars Banquet BEG 142D (BEG 142 & ICE 2 on disc) [UK]

12"

Beggars Banquet BEG 142T [UK]

7"

1. Seven Horses [4:12]
2. Slingshot [4:20]

7" (promo)

1. Seven Horses [4:12]
2. Seven Horses (American Version) [4:46]

2*7"

1. Seven Horses [4:12]
2. Slingshot [4:20]
3. Beggars Legacy [3:40]
4. Goin' Back [3:55]

12"

1. Seven Horses (American Version) [4:46]
2. Slingshot [4:20]
3. Beggars Legacy [3:40]

Produced by Wally Brill.

It Makes No Difference

12"

Beggars Banquet BEG 144T (promo)

1. It Makes No Difference [4:45]
2. Sea Song [5:17]
3. Nature's Way [2:59]

Released as a promo only under the name of "Melting Bear." Vocals and all other instruments by Ian McNabb, except drums by Chris Sharrock and Sax/Clarinet by Tony Kelly. Made it only to promo stages before being pulled. Finally released as B-side of "Up Here In The North Of England."

September 1985

The Small Price Of A Bicycle

LP

Beggars Banquet BEGA 61 [UK]
Virgin 207214 [Europe]

MC

Beggars Banquet ? 61 [UK]

CD

Beggars Banquet BEGA 61 CD [UK]
Beggars Banquet BBL 61 CD [UK] Beggars Banquet BBP 61 CD [UK]

1. Hollow Horse [4:00]
2. Perambulator [4:02]
3. Seven Horses [4:12]
4. Rapids [4:32]
5. Windfall [4:13]
6. Assumed Sundown [5:53]
7. Saint's Sojourn [4:33]
8. All The Daughters (Of Her Father's House) [4:40]
9. Book Of Reason [3:45]
10. Conscience Of Kings [4:48]

Produced by Wally Brill, engineered by Richard Manwaring, assisted by Jacques de Jacques except for 1 produced by Hugh Jones and 8 produced by Geoff Muir and The Icicle Works.

Entered the UK album chart on 28th September 1985. Remained on the chart for 3 weeks and peaked at number 55.

October 1985

When It All Comes Down

7"

Beggars Banquet BEG 151 [UK]

12"

Beggars Banquet BEG 151T [UK]

7"

1. When It All Comes Down (Abriged Version) [4:15]
2. (Let's Go) Down To The River [3:53]

12"

1. When It All Comes Down (Unabridged Version) [6:33]
2. (Let's Go) Down To The River [3:53]
3. Cold Turkey [4:28]

"When It All Comes Down" produced by Pat Moran. "(Let's Go) Down To The River" and "Cold Turkey" produced by Geoff Muir and Ian McNabb.

January 1986

Rapids

7"

Beggars Banquet BEG 154 (promo)

12"

Beggars Banquet BEG 154T (promo)

7"

1. Rapids [4:32]
2. I Never Saw My Hometown [2:48]

12"

1. Rapids [4:32]
2. I Never Saw My Hometown [2:48]
3. Into The Mystic [3:40]

White sleeved promotionals only. 12" is signed by the band. Some (if not all) are signed by only McNabb and Sharrock and are numbered.

February 1986

Seven Singles Deep

LP

Beggars Banquet BEGA 71 [UK]
Virgin 207 662 [Germany]

MC

Beggars Banquet BEGC 71 [UK]

LP

1. Hollow Horse (Long Version) (4:55)
2. Love Is A Wonderful Colour (Long Version) (6:45)
3. Birds Fly (Whisper To A Scream) (Frantic Mix) (5:18)
4. All The Daughters (Of Her Father's House) (Long Version) (5:03)
5. When It All Comes Down (Unabridged Version) (6:30)
6. Seven Horses (American Version) (4:45)
7. Rapids (4:30)

MC

1. Hollow Horse (Long Version) [4:56]
2. Love Is A Wonderful Colour (Long Version) [6:43]
3. Birds Fly (Whisper To A Scream) (Frantic Mix) [5:20]
4. All The Daughters (Of Her Father's House) (Long Version) [5:05]
5. When It All Comes Down (Unabridged Version) [6:33]
6. Seven Horses (American Version) [4:46]
7. Rapids [4:32]
8. I Never Saw My Hometown 'Til I Went Around The World [2:48]
9. (Let's Go) Down To The River [3:53]
10. Slingshot [4:20]
11. The Atheist [4:25]
12. Into The Mystic [3:40]
13. A Pocketful Of Nothing [3:51]
14. Goin' Back [3:55]

A compilation of the first seven singles (or versions thereof). The cassette version included many B-sides in addition. Note that the "Long Version" of " All The Daughters..." is shorter than the version on the 12" single. 12" timings from German label.

Entered UK album chart on 1st March 1986. During a 2 week chart run it peaked at number 52.

The Icicle Works

CD

Beggars Banquet BEGA 71 CD [UK]
Beggars Banquet BBL 71 CD [UK]

1. Hollow Horse (Long Version) (5:00)
2. Love Is A Wonderful Colour (4:16)
3. Perambulator (4:02)
4. Lover's Day (4:49)
5. Rapids (4:32)
6. Seven Horses (American Version) (4:46)
7. Out Of Season (4:47)
8. When It All Comes Down (Unabridged Version) (6:33)
9. All The Daughters (Of Her Father's House) (Long Version) (5:05)
10. Saint's Sojourn (4:33)
11. Birds Fly (Frantic Mix) (5:20)
12. Nirvana (5:09)
13. Conscience Of Kings (4:48)

Confusingly named CD-only compilation of tracks from The Icicle Works, The Small Price Of A Bicycle and Seven Singles Deep.

July 1986

Understanding Jane

7"

Beggars Banquet BEG 160 [UK]
Beggars Banquet ? [Spain]

12"

Beggars Banquet BEG 160T [UK]

CS

Beggars Banquet BEG 160C [UK]

7"

1. Understanding Jane (3:21)
2. I Never Saw My Hometown 'Til I Went Around The World [2:48]
   

7" [Spain]

1. Understanding Jane [?:??]
2. Travelling Chest [?:??]

12"

1. Understanding Jane (3:21)
2. I Never Saw My Hometown 'Til I Went Around The World (2:48)
3. Into The Mystic (3:40)

CS

1. Understanding Jane [3:21]
2. I Never Saw My Hometown 'Til I Went Around the World [2:48]
3. Seven Horses (live) [4:17]
4. Perambulator (live) [4:12]
5. Rapids (live) [4:26]

"Understanding Jane" produced by Ian Broudie. "I Never Saw My Hometown" and "Into The Mystic" produced by Geoff Muir and The Icicle Works. 12" available in a white label/sleeve promo signed by all three band members. Live tracks on CS recorded for BBC Radio Merseyside "Streetlife" programme; remixed by Pete Coleman and Geoff Muir.

Entered the UK singles chart on 26th July 1986. Remained on the chart for 3 weeks, peaking at number 52.

The Icicle Works Live At The Albert, Lark Lane

7"

Beggars Banquet ICE 3 [UK]

1. Hollow Horse (Live) [4:34]
2. You Ain't Seen Nothing Yet [4:24]

Live recordings courtesy of BBC Radio Merseyside Streetlife programme. Remixed by Geoff Muir and Pete Coleman. This disc was reportedly only given away free with "Understanding Jane" 7" BEG 160, being shrinkwrapped with the above disc. Sleeve/sticker reports catalog number as BEG 160F; however, this BEG 106F does not appear on some versions apparently or it was discarded by the owner. The bonus disk is labeled ICE 3.

September 1986

Who Do You Want For Your Love?

7"

Beggars Banquet BEG 172 [UK]

12"

Beggars Banquet BEG 172T [UK]

CS

Beggars Banquet BEG 172F [UK]

7"

1. Who Do You Want For Your Love? (3:54)
2. Understanding Jane (Live) [4:11]

12"

1. Who Do You Want For Your Love? (3:54)
2. Understanding Jane (Live) [4:11]
3. Should I Stay Or Should I Go (Live) [3:00]
4. Roadhouse Blues (Live) [4:44]

CS

1. Who Do You Want For Your Love [3:54]
2. John Geoffrey Muir, Shopkeeper [2:36]
3. Impossibly Three Lovers [5:07]

"Who Do You Want For Your Love?" produced by Ian Broudie, all other studio tracks produced by The Icicle Works and Geoff Muir. Live tracks produced by the Icicle Works and recorded at Town and Country Club, Kentish Town, 23 July 1986. The label of the 7" reports that b-side "Understanding Jane (Live)" is produced by Ian Broudie. Cassette label incorrectly identifies track 3 as "Impossible Three Lovers" Cassette single reportedly only given away free with initial copies of 7-inch single and contained a contest to "Win the Icicle Works playing live in your home!" I wonder what the neighbors thought of that.

Entered the UK singles chart on 4th October 1986. During a 4 week chart run it peaked at number 54.

November 1986

Up Here In The North Of England

12"

Situation Two SIT 45T [UK]

1. Up Here In The North Of England [5:06]
2. It Makes No Difference [4:37]
3. Sea Song [5:17]
4. Nature's Way [2:59]
5. Waylaid [4:06]

"Up Here In The North Of England" produced by Ian Broudie. "Waylaid" produced by Geoff Muir and Chris Layhe. Other tracks produced by Geoff Muir and Ian McNabb. Reported a limited edition of 5000 copies. Also available as 12" white label with attached label giving catalogue, track and production credits, release date as 8.12.96, dealer price 1.99

January 1987

Evangeline

7"

Beggars Banquet BEG 181 [UK]
Beggars Banquet ? [Spain]

12"

Beggars Banquet BEG 181T [UK]

CS

Beggars Banquet BEG 181C [UK]

7"

1. Evangeline (?:??)
2. Everybody Loves To Play The Fool (?:??)

12"

1. Evangeline [4:01]
2. Everybody Loves To Play The Fool [4:05]
3. Waiting In The Wings [4:19]
4. Evangeline (Demo Version) [4:09]

CS

1. Evangeline [4:01]
2. Everybody Loves To Play The Fool [4:05]
3. It Makes No Difference [4:37]
4. Sea Song [5:17]
5. Nature's Way [2:59]

"Evangeline" produced by Ian Broudie. "Evangeline (Demo Version)" produced by The Icicle Works and Geoff Muir. Other tracks produced by The Icicle Works and Pete Coleman. Initial copies of 12" included a poster and are labeled 181 TP on the cover. BEG 181 T also was available as a white-labeled promo with autographs of the band and poster.

Hit the UK charts on 14 February 1987. Staying on the chart for four weeks, it peaked at number 53.

March 1987

If You Want To Defeat Your Enemy Sing His Song

LP

Beggars Banquet BEGA 78 [UK]
RCA/Beggars Banquet 6447-1-H [US]
Vertigo/Beggars Banquet 832 487-1 [Canada]
Ariola 208 235 [Germany]

MC

Beggars Banquet ? 78 [UK]
Vertigo/Beggars Banquet 832-487-4 [Canada]

CD

Beggars Banquet BEGA 78 CD [UK]
Beggars Banquet BBL 78 CD [UK]
Beggars Banquet BBP 78 CD [UK]
RCA/Beggars Banquet 6447-2-H [US]

LP, MC

1. Hope Springs Eternal (4:06)
2. Travelling Chest (4:40)
3. Sweet Thursday (4:17)
4. Up Here In The North Of England (5:12)
5. Who Do You Want For Your Love? (3:54)
6. When You Were Mine (4:37)
7. Evangeline (4:05)
8. Truck Driver's Lament (5:18)
9. Understanding Jane (3:21)
10. Walking With A Mountain (4:44)

US and Canadian LP (and US CD)

1. Evangeline (4:01)
2. Hope Springs Eternal (4:05)
3. Understanding Jane (3:20) (Canadian listed as 3:35)
4. Sweet Thursday (4:00)
5. Up Here In The North of England (4:58)
6. Who Do You Want for Your Love (3:56)
7. When You Were Mine (4:36)
8. Travelling Chest (4:40)
9. Truck Driver's Lament (5:18)
10. Walking with a Mountain (5:25) [4:44]

German/European LP

1. Hope Springs Eternal (4:06)
2. Travelling Chest (4:40)
3. Sweet Thursday (4:00)
4. Up Here In The North Of England (4:58)
5. Who Do You Want For Your Love? (3:56)
6. When You Were Mine (4:36)
7. Evangeline (4:01)
8. Truck Driver's Lament (5:18)
9. Understanding Jane (3:35)
10. Walking With A Mountain (5:25)

CD

1. Hope Springs Eternal (4:06)
2. Travelling Chest (4:40)
3. Sweet Thursday (4:17)
4. Up Here In The North Of England (5:12)
5. Who Do You Want For Your Love? (3:54)
6. Everybody Loves To Play The Fool (4:08)
7. When You Were Mine (4:37)
8. Don't Let It Rain On My Parade (4:35)
9. Evangeline (4:05)
10. Truck Driver's Lament (5:18)
11. Understanding Jane (3:21)
12. I Never Saw My Home Town 'Til I Went Around The World (2:48)
13. Walking With A Mountain (4:44)
14. Into The Mystic (3:40)

Produced by Ian Broudie except "Everybody Loves To Play The Fool" produced by The Icicle Works and Pete Coleman and "I Never Saw My Home Town 'Til I Went Around The World" and "Into The Mystic" produced by The Icicle Works and Geoff Muir. All titles written by Ian McNabb except "Into The Mystic" written by Van Morrison.

Canadian LP and MC included an 8 song bonus album (LP cat no. SAMP 2) featuring 2 tracks by The Icicle Works: "Evangeline" and "Sweet Thursday." Both were identical to the album versions on "If You Want To Defeat Your Enemy..." This free LP was also given away with copies of The Go-Betweens' "Tallulah," Pierce Turner's "It's Only A Long Way Across," and Passion Fodder's "Fat Tuesday."

Although it may be difficult to see in the thumbnail scans, the US LP cover seems to be slightly different from the UK version. Notice that the US version has "The Icicle Works" above the album name as well. Color differences are probably differences in the scans or inks rather than intentional, although it does seem to me that the US version does obscure Ian's and Layhe's faces more.

German/European LP has same tracks as UK version, but note how there is considerable time differences listed on the labels. For example, "Walking With A Mountain." The numbers seem to be similar to what is listed on the U.S. and Canadian versions.

Entered the UK album chart on 21st March 1987. Remained on the chart for 4 weeks and peaked at number 28. BBL 78 CD is the re-release CD.

Understanding Jane

12"

RCA 6444 [US] (Promo)

1. Understanding Jane (3:21)
2. Understanding Jane (3:21)

The album version seems to appear on both sides of this promo 12".

Travelling Chest

7"

Ariola/Beggars Banquet 109134 [Europe]

1. Travelling Chest (Edited Version) (4:23)
2. Don't Let It Rain on My Parade (?:??)
   

Both tracks produced by Ian Broudie.

November 1987

High Time

7"

Beggars Banquet BEG 203(S) [UK]

12"

RCA/Beggars Banquet 8684-1-HDAA [US]

12"

Beggars Banquet BEG 203T

CD5

Beggars Banquet BEG 203CD [UK]

7"

1. High Time (?:??)
2. Broken Hearted Fool (?:??)

12" US

1. High Time (3:26)
2. High Time (3:26)

12" UK & CD5

1. High Time [3:26]
2. Broken Hearted Fool [3:40]
3. Private Revolution (Live) [4:11]
4. Travelling Chest (Live) [3:56]

Studio tracks produced by Ian McNabb. "High Time" mixed by Mark Wallis. Live tracks recorded at The Astoria, London, by Mick McKenna, mixed by Ian McNabb.

Note: 12" is US Promotional Single. BEG 203S is a "Limited Edition Tour Souvenir" and includes 7" single BEG 203 as well as Hightime 1987 Tour dates for November and December, discography of the band from May 1983-Nov 1987, and three live photos listed as "postcards" on the 203S sleeve (one of each member). Note that Ian McNabb is shown playing left-handed--the photo being flipped right-to-left. The choice of someone in the art department who wanted him to balance off Chris Layhe?

February 1988

The Kiss Off / Numb

7"

Beggars Banquet BEG 208 [UK]

12"

Beggars Banquet IW 1 [UK]

12"

Beggars Banquet BEG 208TX [UK] (Promo)

CS

Beggars Banquet IW 1 C [UK]

CD5

Beggars Banquet IW 1 CD [UK]

12"

RCA/Beggars Banquet 8772-1-HDAB [US] (Promo)

7"

1. The Kiss Off (?:??)
2. Sure Thing (?:??)

12", CS, & CD5 "Numb"

1. The Kiss Off (4:20)
2. Sure Thing (4:53)
3. High Time (3:33)
4. Whipping Boy (4:30)

12" US

1. The Kiss Off (Extended Mix) (6:01)
2. The Kiss Off (12" Mix) (4:23)
3. The Kiss Off (Instrumental Dub) (4:50)

12" UK Promo

1. The Kiss Off (6:00)
2. The Kiss Off (4:49)

Produced by Geoff Muir and The Icicle Works with thanks to Mark Pythian. Engineered by Mark Pythian except "Sure Thing" by Pete Coleman. All songs written by Ian McNabb. Keyboards - Dave Green. "High Time" is an acoustic version although it is not listed as such.

US 12" is a US Promotional single, produced by Geoff Muir and Icicle Works. Remixed by Jay Burnett. Interesting due to alternative mixes. UK promo 12" is in plain, white sleeve.

April 1988

Little Girl Lost

7"

Beggars Banquet BEG 215 [UK]
Beggars Banquet(?) [Spain]

12"

Beggars Banquet BEG 215T [UK]

CD5

Beggars Banquet BEG 215 CD [UK]

7"

1. Little Girl Lost [4:31]
2. Tin Can [3:19]

7" [Spain]

1. Little Girl Lost [?:??]
2. One True Love [?:??]
3. The Kiss Off [?:??]

12"

1. Little Girl Lost [4:31]
2. Tin Can [3:19]
3. Hot Profit Gospel [3:44]
4. One Time [6:15]

CD5

1. Little Girl Lost (4:31)
2. Evangeline (4:04)
3. Understanding Jane (3:21)
4. Tin Can (3:19)

Produced by The Icicle Works except "Little Girl Lost" produced by Ian McNabb, mixed by Mark Wallis. "Evangeline" and "Understanding Jane" produced by Ian Broudie. The CD is a picture CD.

Made the UK charts on 30 April 1988. During a four-week stay, it peaked at 59.

Blind

LP

Beggars Banquet IWA 2 [UK]
Vertigo/Beggars Banquet 836 004-1 [Canada]
? [US]

MC

Beggars Banquet ? 2 [UK]
Vertigo/Beggars Banquet 836-004-4 [Canada]

CD

Beggars Banquet IWA 2 CD [UK]
Beggars Banquet BBL 93 CD [UK]
Beggars Banquet BBP 93 CD [UK]
RCA/Beggars Banquet 8424-2-H [US]
Beggars Banquet BY28-17 [Japan] (Distributed by Apollon International)

UK, Japan, and Canada

1. Intro (0:29)
2. Shit Creek (4:01)
3. High Time (3:34)
4. Little Girl Lost (4:43)
5. Starry Blue Eyed Wonder (4:12)
6. One True Love (1:50)
7. Blind (5:36)
8. Two Two Three (2:23)
9. What Do You Want Me To Do? (3:12)
10. Stood Before Saint Peter (5:24)
11. The Kiss Off (4:23)
12. Here Comes Trouble (4:02)
13. Walk A While With Me (4:19)

US LP

1. The Kiss Off (4:23)
2. Shit Creek (2:56)
3. Little Girl Lost (4:43)
4. Starry Blue Eyed Wonder (4:12)
5. Blind (5:36)
6. Sure Thing (4:55)
7. Hot Profit Gospel (3:44)
8. High Time (3:34)
9. Stood Before Saint Peter (5:24)
10. Here Comes Trouble (4:02)
11. Walk A While With Me (4:19)

US CD

1. The Kiss Off (4:23)
2. Shit Creek (2:56)
3. Little Girl Lost (4:43)
4. Starry Blue Eyed Wonder (4:12)
5. Blind (5:36)
6. Sure Thing (4:55)
7. Hot Profit Gospel (3:44)
8. High Time (3:24)
9. Stood Before Saint Peter (5:24)
10. Here Comes Trouble (4:02)
11. Walk A While With Me (4:19)
12. Tin Can (3:18)

All titles composed by Ian McNabb except 2 McNabb/Layhe. Produced by Ian McNabb and mixed by Mark Wallis except "The Kiss Off" produced by Geoff Muir and The Icicle Works.

Note: The U.S. tracks are significantly different from the U.K. version, giving the album quite a different sound. "Shit Creek" is missing second part of the song on the US release. In addition, the U.S. CD version of "High Time", is about ten seconds shorter than the U.K. version due to an early fade-out. All other tracks (when they appear on the albums) seem to be the same on both sides of the Atlantic. The US versions of the album should probably credit production of "Hot Profit Gospel" and "Tin Can" to The Icicle Works and "Sure Thing" to Geoff Muir and The Icicle Works with all other tracks as credited on the UK/Canada releases. However, it reads: "Produced by 'Boots,' except 'The Kiss Off' produced by Geoff Muir and The Icicle Works."

A gold CD version exists. Catalog number same as UK version, Beggars Banquet IWA 2CD, UPC code 5 012093 009322. Made in UK. Mastered by Nimbus. Features "American" fish cover with UK track listing.

Entered the UK charts on 14 May 1988. During a three-week chart stay, the album peaked at 40.

Ian comments on Blind in 2001.

The Icicle Works--Words and Music

MC

BMG/RCA/Beggars Banquet

• Interview and Music
• Kiss Off
• High Time
• Little Girl Lost
• Stood Before St. Peter

An in-house promotional tape for Blind designed for BMG people in the U.S. Side A has "Interview and Music." Side B has tracks from Blind. Transcript of the "Interview" can be found here.

June 1988

Here Comes Trouble

7"

Beggars Banquet BEG 220[UK]

12"

Beggars Banquet BEG 220T [UK]

7"

1. Here Comes Trouble (?:??)
2. Starry Blue Eyed Wonder (Live) (?:??)

12"

1. Here Comes Trouble [4:02]
2. Starry Blue Eyed Wonder (Live) [4:23]
3. For What It's Worth - Medley (Live) [5:45]
4. Rock And Roll (Live) [3:45]

"Here Comes Trouble" produced by Ian McNabb and mixed by Mark Wallis. Live tracks recorded live at the Astoria Theatre, London by Mick McKenna, mixed by Geoff Muir and The Icicle Works. 7" b-side label reports: "Recorded by Mick McKenna on the Mobile. Mixed by Ian McNabb."

Medley includes "You Can't Always Get What You Want", "Walk On The Wild Side" and "Soul Kitchen".

There is a limited edition collectors box set entitled "Icicle Works '88". The box comes with the 12" version of "Here Comes Trouble" as the third part. The first part is the Numb EP (IW1), and the second part is the Blind L.P. You're supposed to put these two records in the box along with "Here Comes Trouble". The number of the box is IW3. The souvenir box version was released in June 1988, while the regular 12" was released in October 1988.

1990

Permanent Damage

LP

Work/Epic 466 800 1 [UK]

MC

Work/Epic 466 800 4 [UK]

CD

Work/Epic 466 800 2 [UK]
Epic ESCA5138 [Japan] (distributed by CBS Sony Japan)
Epic Records 466800 2 [Europe (made in Austria)]

1. I Still Want You (3:37)
2. Motorcycle Rider (3:35)
3. Melanie Still Hurts (4:13)
4. Hope Street Rag (3:28)
5. I Think I'm Gonna Be OK (3:11)
6. Baby Don't Burn (4:11)
7. What She Did To My Mind (7:20)
8. One Good Eye (4:48)
9. Permanent Damage (3:17)
10. Woman On My Mind (3:43)
11. Looks Like Rain (2:12)
12. Dumb Angel (3:36)

Robert Ian McNabb - voice, guitars & keyboards.
Roy Corkhill - bass.
Paul Burgess - drums.
Mark Revell - voice.
Dave Baldwin - additional keyboards.

Louis Gardin - percussion.
Ged Lynch - additional drums and percussion.

Tracks 1-5 produced by Michael H Brauer. Track 6 produced by Richard Manwaring and The Icicle Works. Tracks 7-12 produced by The Icicle Works. All tracks mixed by Michael H Brauer except 6 mixed by Richard Manwaring and 9,11 mixed by Mark Pythian.

All tracks written by Ian McNabb.

January 1990

Love Is A Wonderful Colour

7"

Old Gold OG 9918

1. Love Is A Wonderful Color (?:??)
2. Birds Fly (Whisper To A Scream) (?:??)

Reissue featuring a totally different piture sleeve.

March 1990

Motorcycle Rider

7"

Work/Epic WORKS100 [UK]
Epic 655672 [Europe]

12"

Work/Epic WORKS Q100 [UK]

12"

Work/Epic WORKS T100 [UK]

12"

Work/Epic WORKS E100 [UK]

CD5

Works/Epic C100 [UK]

7"

1. Motorcycle Rider (3:34)
2. Turn Any Corner (3:06)

12" Q100

1. Motorcycle Rider [3:33]
2. Let's Get Loaded [2:05]
3. Red Lightning [2:43]

12" T100 & E100

1. Motorcycle Rider [3:33]
2. Turn Any Corner [3:03]
3. People Change [2:34]

CD5

1. Motorcycle Rider (3:33)
2. Turn Any Corner (3:03)
3. People Change (2:35)
4. Victoria's Ghost (2:36)

All tracks produced by The Icicle Works except "Motorcycle Rider" produced by Michael H. Brauer for MHB Productions and The Icicle Works, Q100 reportedly shows credit to Michael H. Brauer for MHB Productions, Inc. Made the British charts at 73 for one week, 17 March 1990. E100 is a 12" black laser-etched picture disc. Side A features the three songs. Side B features a silver label in the center, surrounded by five etchings in the vinyl surface of a motorcycle and rider (as seen on the cover). It indicates that it is a limited edition, although no quantity is specified.

May 1990

Melanie Still Hurts

7"

Work/Epic WORKS 101 [UK]

7"

Work/Epic WORKS Q101 [UK]

12"

Work/Epic WORKS T101 [UK]

CD5

Works/Epic C101 [UK]

7" WORKS 101

1. Melanie Still Hurts (?:??)
2. When the Crying's Done (?:??)

7" WORKS Q101

1. Melanie Still Hurts (4:13)
2. When The Crying's Done (2:43)
3. Mickey's Blue (3:03)
4. I Dreamt I Was A Beautiful Woman (2:25)

12"

1. Melanie Still Hurts [4:13]
2. When The Crying's Done [2:43]
3. Mickey's Blue [3:03]

CD5

1. Melanie Still Hurts (4:13)
2. When The Crying's Done (2:43)
3. Mickey's Blue (3:03)
4. I Dreamt I Was A Beautiful Woman (2:25)

All songs written by Robert Ian McNabb. 1 produced by Michael H Brauer for MHB Productions and The Icicle Works. 2-4 produced by The Icicle Works. Works Q101 came with an enamel badge (button) with the words "The Icicle Works."

I Still Want You

7"

Work/Epic 102? [UK]

CS

Works M102

10"

Works Q102

12"

Work/Epic WORKS T102 [UK]

CD5

Works/Epic C102 [UK]

7" & CS

1. I Still Want You (?:??)
2. I Want That Girl (?:??)

10"

1. I Still Want You
2. I Want That Girl
3. It's Not Gonna Rain Forever
4. Sweet Disposition

12"

1. I Still Want You (?:??)
2. I Want That Girl (?:??)
3. Wouldn't It Be Great (?:??)

CD5

1. I Still Want You (3:38)
2. I Want That Girl (3:20)
3. Wouldn't It Be Great (2:50)
4. Sweet Disposition (3:40)

All tracks written by Robert Ian McNabb.

1 produced by Michael H. Brauer for MHB Productions and The Icicle Works. 2-4 produced by The Icicle Works.

August 1992

Understanding Jane ('92 Version)

CD5

Beggars Banquet BEG 262 CD [UK]

7"

Beggars Banquet BEG 262 [UK]

12"

Beggars Banquet BEG 262 T [UK]

CD5

1. Understanding Jane ('92 Version) (3:25)
2. Little Girl Lost (4:35)
3. Like Weather (5:33)
4. Solid Ground (3:09)

7"

1. Understanding Jane ('92 Version) (3:25)
2. Little Girl Lost (4:40)

12"

1. Understanding Jane ('92 Version) (3:25)
2. Like Weather (5:33)
3. When It All Comes Down ('92 Version) (5:46)
4. Firepower (3:43)

All tracks written by Ian McNabb

All tracks produced by Ian McNabb except 1. originally produced by Ian Broudie, remix and additional overdubs by Ian McNabb. On 12", track 3 originally produced by Pat Moran, re-recording produced by Ian McNabb.

The Best Of The Icicle Works

CD

Beggars Banquet BEGA 124 CD [UK]
Beggars Banquet BBL 124 CD [US]

2CD

Beggars Banquet BEGA 124 CD [UK]

 

Beggars Banquet TKCB-70084 [Japan] (Distributed by Tokuma Japan)

2MC

Beggars Banquet BEGA 48734? [UK]

1. Hollow Horse (Long Version) (4:56)
2. Love Is A Wonderful Colour (4:10)
3. Birds Fly (Whisper To A Scream) (3:47)
4. Understanding Jane ('92 Version) (3:25)
5. Shit Creek (4:01)
6. High Time (Acoustic) (3:34)
7. Who Do You Want For Your Love (3:56)
8. Evangeline (4:04)
9. Little Girl Lost (4:35)
10. When It All Comes Down ('92 Version) (5:46)
11. Starry Blue Eyed Wonder (4:12)
12. Out Of Season (4:43)
13. The Kiss Off (4:19)
14. Up Here In The North Of England (5:12)
15. Firepower (3:43)
16. Blind (5:19)

Second disc Best Kept Secrets

(UK version limited to first pressing only)

1. Like Weather (5:33)
2. One Time (6:22)
3. I Never Saw My Hometown 'Til I Went Around The World (2:48)
4. Private Revolution (Live) (4:21)
5. Sure Thing (4:55)
6. Nirvana (Live) (8:24)
7. Triad/Chestnut Mare (4:47)
8. The Atheist (4:25)
9. The Needle And The Damage Done (With Pete Wylie) (2:34)
10. Whipping Boy (4:24)
11. Solid Ground (3:09)
12. Acid Hell Nightmare (4:07)
13. Broken Hearted Fool (3:42)
14. Hot Profit Gospel (3:41)
15. Tin Can (3:19)
16. Goin' Back (3:55)

Spent one week on the UK charts at number 60, 5 September 1992. Japanese second disc is missing Ian's comments in the liner sheet and instead has a Japanese critic's commentary on The Icicle Works. A double-cassette version was listed at some Japanese imports shops on the Internet. If you have it, please confirm details.

Al Crawford review available

February 1994

BBC Live In Concert

CD

Windsong WINCD 053 [UK]
Windsong MSIF-3175 [Japan] (Distributed by MSI)

1. Who Do You Want For Your Love (4:17)
2. Evangeline (4:13)
3. Starry Blue Eyed Wonder (4:58)
4. Little Girl Lost (5:09)
5. Up Here In The North Of England (5:52)
6. Understanding Jane (3:41)
7. When It All Comes Down (7:33)

Recorded at the Hippodrome, Golders Green, on 5th January 1987. Produced by Phil Ross.

Al Crawford review available.